Monday, June 26, 2006

Abraham Lincoln was a genius

This Story is being run on the Drudge Report what the hell is the matter with this guy! I mean really!

American presence in Iraq is more dangerous to world peace than nuclear threats from North Korea or Iran, U.S. Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., said to a crowd of more than 200 in North Miami Saturday afternoon.

Murtha was the guest speaker at a town hall meeting organized by U.S. Rep. Kendrick B. Meek, D-Miami, at Florida International University's Biscayne Bay Campus. Meek's mother, former U.S. Rep. Carrie Meek, D-Miami, was also on the panel.


War veterans, local mayors, university students and faculty packed the Mary Ann Wolfe Theatre to listen to the three panelists discuss the war in Iraq for an hour.

A former Marine and a prominent critic of the Bush administration's policies in Iraq, Murtha reiterated his views that the war cannot be won militarily and needs political solutions. He said the more than 100,000 troops in Iraq should be pulled out immediately, and deployed to peripheral countries like Kuwait.

"We do not want permanent bases in Iraq," Murtha told the audience. "We want as many Americans out of there as possible."

Murtha also has publicly said that the shooting of 24 Iraqis in November at Haditha, a city in the Anbar province of western Iraq that has been plagued by insurgents, was wrongfully covered up.

The killings, which sparked an investigation into the deadly encounter and another into whether they were the subject of a cover-up, could undermine U.S. efforts in Iraq more than the prison abuse scandal at Abu Ghraib in 2004, Murtha said.

"[The United States] became the target when Abu Ghraib came along," Murtha said.

U.S. efforts to win over Iraqis were tarnished when it was revealed that U.S. military personnel had abused and humiliated people held at Abu Ghraib, a prison outside Baghdad.

Most in the crowd agreed with Murtha and the need to redeploy troops from Iraq as soon as possible. "I believe we are in a mess over there [in Iraq]," said Alnoor Jamal, 49, of Miami.

Well thank you Alnoor Jamal I sure glad you pointed that out. JACKASS! SHAMROCK OUT!

Story courtesy of Elizabeth Baier
South Florida Sun-Sentinel


At Monday, June 26, 2006, Anonymous Kath said...

Wow, that's a great Abraham Lincoln quote, I'd never heard it before. I think now we're all just waiting to see Murtha and the MSM get all out busted... please let it be sooner rather than later!

At Monday, June 26, 2006, Blogger Blue2Green said...

HAHAHAHAHA....I love that end quote by Alnoor Jamal....thats priceless.

At Tuesday, June 27, 2006, Blogger Jake said...

isn't this congressman from your home state bud? ....

did you vote for him?

you bastardo!

At Tuesday, June 27, 2006, Blogger Kell said...

Awesome quote. Try these on...

We make war that we may live in peace. (Aristotle)

If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace. (Thomas Paine)

This war is not pretty or sexy or easy to live with... but I have come to realize that it is a necessary one.

At Tuesday, June 27, 2006, Blogger Shamrock7 said...

Kath: yeah I'm glad I found this
B2G: Alnoor Jamal...please


Kell: I like all those quotes man. Keep them coming.

At Tuesday, June 27, 2006, Blogger Kell said...

You don't want to throw that one out there for me. I am strong believer that "someone" can always say it a whole lot better than I...

I like your style. May I link you?

At Wednesday, June 28, 2006, Blogger Jake said...

bring it on Mickey!!!

At Wednesday, June 28, 2006, Blogger Shamrock7 said...

Kell: Yes you may and welcome to the rant!

Jake: Mickey luvs you!

At Tuesday, August 29, 2006, Blogger chancuff said...

The saga continues ...

This may help everyone understand my contempt for today's Republican Party.

This is the origination of this Lincoln "quote":

that ran in INSIGHT magazine

which is part of News World Communications (see bottom of page in link above) a wholly owned political mouthpiece of the Unification Church, the "Moonies".

I wrote Diana Irey offering her documented proof of what Lincoln never said, CCing all her campaign staff on, first on July 14th, and again on August 4th.

I wrote her, and her staff, repeatedly warning them of the consequences of their inaction. If you'd like verification, write her campaign manager of record (Bill Pascoe, former Press Secretary of the RNC, is calling the shots behind the scenes) at and ask him about my repeated warnings.

If you choose to write, use this as the Subject Line "It's showtime.". He'll know exactly what that means.

When all these efforts failed, I contacted with this very same evidence. Brooks Jackson was able to see what Ms. Irey, and her entire campaign staff refused to.

He published this, last Friday:
(note the video clip in the top right corner)

I would like to tell you there's quite some honor to Bill Pascoe's "within hours" response here:

In conclusion, it warrants mentioning how this "Moonie" Lincoln quote came into common use, without any questions to its authenticity.

Use Google to do a search for this quote. Go back 10-15 pages and you'll find the older dates of its use. You'll discover it was the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth who brought this fiction to life within weeks of Dr. Waller's article.

You will find Larry Bailey of has dusted off this Moonie quote and is using it for his "gimme' your money" scheme, all over the net, including this gem written the chairman of Bailey's PAC, in which it is used twice, for emphasis:

It's no accident that Diana Irey was boons-swaggled into using it.

Bill Pascoe and Kelli Phiel, the folks Robert Novak refers to as her "handlers" in this article:

"Irey, who looks quite young, is a bit green, but her handlers see her as great raw material."

I'll give a dollar to anyone who can decipher the grammar, syntax, period occurring in the middle of the sentence, and random capitalization that occurs in the last sentence of this article.

If you are unfamiliar with who Pascoe and Phiel are, let me introduce you.

Pascoe is the gent who hung tough with Jack Ryan, even after Dennis Hastert rightfully withdrew all GOP support for him in 2004, when Ryan was exposed for insisting his wife go to sex clubs with him and have sex in public.

"Jack Ryan is in the race to stay," said Bill Pascoe, Ryan's spokesman.",1,933334.story

Pascoe also the one who called Alan Keyes and convinced him to move from Maryland to Illinois, to replace Ryan. I'll let you Google that and for Kelli Phiel's history working with Pascoe in the 2004 election.

I wish I could tell you that I've not written Diana Irey repeatedly about her "handlers" past, but I cannot make that claim.

Buzz Patterson used this "Moonie" quote at a chapter heading in his book, Reckless Disregard. If you own a copy, check page 65. He was not the only retired military man to adopt this Republican operatives invention. Ollie North was too:

Least you wonder about my interest in all this ...

My family settled in what is now the 12th District of Pennsylvania in 1820, and have lived there ever since.

My great, great grandfather, after whom I am named in honor of, served in Lincoln’s Union Army. He made the supreme sacrifice for our country on March 23, 1862, serving Stonewall Jackson he only defeat in the Civil war.

Lincoln was, to borrow a title, “A Uniter”

When some goofball Republican operative abuses the reputation of our greatest Republican president, in a Moonie publication no less, for the expressed purpose of political gain for today’s Republican Party … it troubles me.

I suspect it will trouble you, too.

Cliff Hancuff
The World of Journalism Is Flat, Too

At Tuesday, August 29, 2006, Blogger Shamrock7 said...

Chancuff: Welcome to my blog sir I really hope you can continue to visit and help out with facts and such. I welcome all of your commments and insight. My views are Republican BUT it doesn't mean that I don't like a great political lesson/debate. Oh and By the way Go Steelers!

At Sunday, September 10, 2006, Blogger chancuff said...


(Click all the links, or you'll get/be lost.)

Cliff Hancuff
The World of Journalism Is Flat, Too


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